WARNING ON TOGETHERWESERVED


Prescript. 3/14/2021– This post, still alive after all these years, was published on 11/20/2012. Comments on my site never close nor get censored. Please note that before you begin a diatribe telling us about how magnificent President Brian Foster is. I cannot speak to what it (the site) has become in the last nine years. I joined USAA in 1966 under my father’s policy and still belong. I have no idea what they (USAA) find appealing in hanging out with this TWS outfit. Nothing against him or them. I merely reported it in 2012. You decide from your experiences what it is or isn’t now in 2021. Like my grandmother used to say, “If you can’t say something nice about somebody, come on over here and sit beside me.”

Dateline- November 20th, 2012

How about Together We Sever you from $19.95 a year (or until you find the cancel button).

Just a little update on the website from one of our members. Apparently Togetherweserved has an interesting hook for new members. In order to pickpocket you for the one year $19.95 membership, they offer it free. The hook? Why, they just need your credit card to confirm your identity. In the small print it says if you do not opt out in 10 days then you agree to pay the $20.00 for a year. So free suddenly morphs into an Andrew Jackson coupon.  They’ll continue to dun you yearly until you find the little “Cancel” button disguised up in the upper left corner of your site stats.

Their financial office does put up a good argument for the $20.00. They connect you with all your buddies- assuming they join too. They have several “disabled Vets” working there diligently counting your cash as it rolls in. Disabled as we know can consist of 0% for Tinnitus. So Ladies and Gentlemen Vets. Forewarned is forearmed. Don’t fall for the ploy. For 0 dollars, you can dig around on Facebook. For $39.95 you can find anyone in the United States for a year. It’s called a CBI or criminal background check. They sounded like a genuine outfit but alas. There’s a P.T. Barnum born every day. Some Vets sites (I’m not naming any here personally) are even low enough to take Vets for a ride. Sure, no one can debate they provide a “service”. I’m certainly not saying they don’t. I’ll let you folks weigh in and comment on if it’s worth the dough.

For the next year, you can go on my profile page and post outrageous medals and claims! I don’t care. I wiped it clean.

P.S. 3/10/2019-Five years after this post, I find this blurb in a #wired post dated in 2008:

TogetherWeServed.com… launched its Air Force site last December. President Brian Foster said at that time the California company had been operating its popular Marines and Navy sites for years without complaints.

But after signing up more than 50,000 [Air Force] members in the first few weeks, participation in the site suddenly slowed as a PowerPoint presentation from Air Force Maj. Mark D. Hedden began circulating online, Foster said.

50,000 Vets at $20 each-just in 2008 for just Air Force Veterans. That, ladies and gentlemen, is One million dollars. I guess it takes a lot of money to put up a good website. I pay WordPress about $100 a year for asknod.org. Maybe I should require everyone to pay to absorb my wit and knowledge. Not. I enjoy being able to sleep at night with a good conscience. There are no pay walls here.

About asknod

VA claims blogger
This entry was posted in Complaints Department, Veterans Charity concerns and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink.

27 Responses to WARNING ON TOGETHERWESERVED

  1. David S says:

    Hmmm, I think the truth is in the fine print. Generally, I believe most web-sites could do a much better job of illuminating their ‘membership’ details but to Bruce’s point above, ‘asknod’ comes accross as a perpetual complainer. ‘asknod’- I think your time is better served trying to be an influencer for good in the world. And no, the above is not what I call being a good influence,

  2. bfoster2004 says:

    Chris and all. There may be some misunderstandings which we want to clear up. it is important to first understand what Together We Served is and the basis on which it operates. In 2003 the founder, who also founded Militel, a successful telecommunications company that provided low-cost phone connections to the US from all US Military Bases around the world, had the vision to create a platform to help reconnect WW2, Korean War and Vietnam War Veterans who had lost touch over the years. 18 years later, TWS is now home to over 2 million U.S Military Veterans, from all eras, and is one of the largest archives of visual military histories existing today. Take a look at the following:

    https:/rollofhonor.togetherweserved.com

    Many of these Veterans have connected with people they served going back 40 to 60 years ago! You don’t have to remember names – just enter your units and years served on your service profile and we provide a list of long-forgotten names. That’s not possible on Facebook! In addition, each Veteran can record their service history in the most complete illustrated format available so that their families and future generations will know what their Veteran did serving their country. Where else are you able to do that?

    To help understand why TWS charges a membership, please consider the following. TWS has a substantial staff of Programmers, frontline Admin and Editorial staff plus dedicated Volunteers who provide invaluable support to their fellow Veterans. To help more Veterans reconnect, Together We Served invests in extensive and costly advertising campaigns.

    As you can appreciate, the running costs of TWS are therefore considerable! TWS is not supported by the government or advertisers whose ads have no place on a military-orientated website and we never share our Members’ information with any third party for commercial purposes, which many Free websites do. TWS is simply a member-supported website offering two types of membership – Free and Full. A Full Membership subscription at $19.95 per year provides access to premium areas on all 5 Service Branch websites and is entirely optional and can be canceled anytime.

    TWS is unique amongst almost all social network websites in that it has a Live Help Desk positioned on every page, manned by Veterans for Veterans, providing assistance to every member who asks for it, 12 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    Finally, a few authentic Member statements from their Service Profile:

    “I am amazed at the number of Marines who have found me as a result of being a member of TWS. I, too, have reconnected to many of those from my past. It is a joy to be a member of this great organization! – Col Jim Bathurst, USMC (1958-1993)”

    “The best military site on the Internet. Not only the best way to stay connected with past and present Air Force members, but stay in touch with today’s constantly changing Air Force. SMSgt Don Zeman, USAF (1970-1994)

    “I have found people I haven’t seen or heard from in thirty to forty years. They are now my shipmates again. Without Togetherweserved.com we would still be wondering ‘Whatever happened to ole so and so’? YN2 John Berry, USN (1968-1972)”

    • asknod says:

      I wondered how long it would take for Mr. Brian Foster (bfoster2004 above?) himself to arrive for clarification of this problem at TWS. I find it odd he talks in the third person. Having avoided contacting me personally for the last eight-plus years, he has finally chosen to “mansplain” why his website is a useful tool for Veterans. Absent from his tome are the 800 lb. gorillas seated on the sofas desperately seeking the brightly lit, yellow-and-black ejection handle to punch out of TWS. This was my very reason for the blog post in 2012. From the continuing number of confused Veterans arriving at my site daily seeking to extricate themselves from this indispensable tool, it indicates there is still a problem even as I write.

      Having attended a number of offers for time-share condos in Hawaii over the decades, I see a similarity in the presentation. No insult intended. Quite simply, if you (or your “volunteers”) have to keep reiterating why TWS is so essential to Veterans, there may remain a disgruntled contingent who feel otherwise. Worse, self-proclaimed TWS-affiliated volunteers arriving here such as Monica and Bruce, bearing ad hominem attacks is antithetical to the Veterans’ cause. It tarnishes TWS’ brand when the spokesperson can’t decypher the word “sever” from “serve”.

      A good product or service shouldn’t require a constant drum roll of ” TWS volunteers” queuing up here to praise value received versus expense incurred. Reasonable minds should be able to concur unequivocally this is true. Veterans nationwide should be shouting as one its (TWS’) virtues from the rooftops. Satisfied Veterans are happy Veterans in my line of business. By studiously skirting any discussion on the exit method (again) in this spiel, it merely reawakens my 2012 query. Why on earth would anyone make it so difficult to bail out? Why would anyone want to prevent his fellow Veteran from doing so? I subscribe to the Sir Thomas Ockham theory known as Ockham’s or Occam’s Razor- the simplest explanation is invariably the correct one. I leave it to the erudite reader to ascertain what that is. I merely contribute as all of you seem intent on as well.

      Personally, I wish Mr. Foster the best in his endeavour(s). If TWS helps even one Veteran reconnect with one of his platoon mates to prove “boots-on -the-ground” in the former Republic of Vietnam, then it is an unmitigated success in my book. Ditto the War on Terror we currently still fight. This isn’t about a competition over who has a better business product. It’s about the Veteran-or, perhaps more succinctly-it’s about what you provide the Veteran. Mr. Foster provides a “quasi-FacePlace” venue exclusively for Veterans. I really don’t even object to his $19.95/yr. paywall for premium access. I can only point back to my own limited “free” encounter as described on November 20, 2012 regarding “severing” (yes, Monica) me from my Twenty dollars. As for a cogent explanation as to why it’s such a chore and a bore trying to depart TWS, I think I speak for all Veterans similarly situated when I ask why it is obligatory (sorry Monica) to get on the merry-go-round of a recurrent yearly payment? In fact, why a recurring fee system at all? Why not a friendly reminder email on your TWS site saying “Dear sir, your subscription runs out in a month. To avoid loss of access, renew now and we’ll even give you a 10% early bird discount?”

      Everyone is entitled to their own business model. My CPA tells me mine is a disaster area. (“What- No Viagra or Russian wives?”) I just wondered why. Apparently, that explanation is more elusive than a Sasquatch or a Unicorn sighting.
      Very Respectfully, sir.
      /es/
      GAG

  3. Chris says:

    If anyone is looking to cancel their TWS membership, and you’re trying to deactivate the account, don’t bother, you won’t be able to find it – it doesn’t exist (at least for the “free” plan). Instead, if you read the terms of service, under the “7. Termination/Cancellation Policy” section, you’ll find that in order to cancel, you have to email the site admin: admin@togetherweserved.com.

    I have zero affiliation with this site, nor TWS, I’m just trying to save fellow vets some time. Lastly, watching “Monica” respond to a seven year old post, without taking into consideration the state of the TWS site between 2012 and 2019, was hilarious. And sad. The amount of gaslighting and backwalking was as enjoyable as watching a train wreck in realtime, but then again, I know what the word “sever” means – and the context in which it was used, so my expectations were met. It certainly wasn’t a high bar.

  4. amarakus says:

    Your mileage may vary. I personally found TWS somewhat helpful. That said, I looked for a coupon for a discount and submitted a small fee for membership (using a credit card that will expire before the membership). You are right to be careful on the public internet. And thanks for the info on some of these outfits like Wounded Warrior that are really not at all what they claim.

  5. penumbrook says:

    Thanks for saving me $20/year.

  6. Dale Marcum says:

    where is the page on their site to disengage from their service….I cant find it

  7. Monica says:

    I am one of those disabled vets that volunteers with Together We Served. All the people I work with, both paid and volunteer, are military veterans and some of us are also disabled.

    I first joined Together We Served some years ago when I was still active duty and have never paid a dime nor was ever asked for my credit card info. I did not start volunteering with them until after I retired, so that is not the reason I hadn’t paid anything. The reason I hadn’t paid anything is because I READ THE DIRECTIONS.

    I would suggest that before you go spouting such vitriol that you have your facts straight.

    Your first mistake is in the very first line of your rant where you misspelled served. The next mistake is one of omission in that you omitted to mention which type of account: TRIAL or FREE. From what I gather you chose the TRIAL version, which is NOT the same as the FREE version. Maybe you missed the Saturday morning info bits about RIF – Reading IS Fundamental because had you fully read what a trial membership is versus a free membership, you would not be espousing this half truth.

    I firmly believe in people expressing their opinion, but when it is not based on facts, is a half truth, or omission of facts, that’s when I have a problem with it.

    • asknod says:

      Monica, Monica, Monica. What can I say? Did you graduate high school or did you get an exemption to serve? The word ‘sever‘ is defined as “divide by cutting or slicing, especially suddenly and forcibly.” That adequately describes the Together We Served method on 11/20/2012-the day I wrote this article- of separating you from your $20 dollars. Trust me. It is not misused in context nor misspelled. What you need to do is accurately accomplish a longitudinal review of TWS’s practices seven years ago-i.e. 2012. There was no trial membership. It was free but you still had to give them your credit card number regardless. If you chose to opt out, you had to fight to extricate yourself and your wallet. I had to call these folks and ask where the exit door was—in 2012. Apparently, my griping and that of others caused these alleged gentlemen to revamp their procedures. Reading IS fundamental. I agree with you that far. However, reading comprehension is even more important. If you cannot absorb the context of what you read, reading anything is futile.
      I hope in the future you will learn that proper research of what you desire to bitch about will save you immense embarrassment and the ridicule of your fellow Veteran peers. Had you squandered a few more minutes reading other comments below yours, you would have discovered there was a different method of divorcing you from your money in 2012. In fact, had you read the comment from your fellow employee Bruce Larsen, you might not have exposed your ignorance or lack of reading comprehension. Say hi to Bruce for me.

      Thank you for your service, too. Relax. I spellchecked this for you.

      • Monica says:

        asknod, asknod, asknod, I know what my name is and I am glad you took the time to write it out several times just to ensure you knew how to spell it correctly. At least I don’t hide behind some nonsensical moniker. How did I know you would come back with some smart-ass retort because your point was missed (perhaps because it was poorly made as in this case). If you have to explain a joke, then it is not funny.

        You are crying out for attention. From your rants, it is clear to me that you lack maturity and like to think you have mastered the English language. Anyone can open a thesaurus and dictionary nowadays, but that doesn’t mean they are educated. Poor, lonely baby. You’re sad.

        If YOU had read and comprehended what I wrote, you would not have called me an employee. I AM A VOLUNTEER. RIF/RCIF!!!!!

        I personally have no contact with Bruce and until I read this libelous post of yours, I had no idea who he was.

        I expect another tirade from you. Why don’t you try getting off the internet and try living a life in the real world?!

        And by the way, I didn’t have to use spell check because I went to and graduated from elementary, middle, and high school, as well as several colleges and learned how to read and write.

        • asknod says:

          Ah, now it’s Monica the gaslighter/troll. Since you profess to be a pseudo-representative of your beloved TWS, everyone who has a complaint can now contact you at nicabill@aol.com to voice their displeasure. I commend your for your educational pursuits. I guess they don’t teach big words like ‘sever’ in college. Try Phonics and sound it out Monica. It appears your college education was mostly Poli Sci and devoid of psychology courses if you pity me.

          No. I don’t need to write for my site these days but I can’t let anyone labor under a misconception. At 290% VA disabled, I chose to become accredited and then sought admittance as a nonattorney practitioner at the Federal level. I’m easy to find. Google my nonsensical moniker. Asknod Inc is one of the more successful VA law firms in the country now. We’ve never lost a case yet, baby (no misogyny intended)

          It’s too bad you haven’t chosen to help Vets in a meaningful manner, too. What’s with this insane desire to make Brian Foster a millionaire for a pay-to-play social media site? Every year if 50,000 Vets ante up $20 each, it makes him another million dollars.100,000 Vets would be $2 million. Idiot’s delight! And you seriously are saying you volunteer to help lower his costs? What kind of drivel did they fill your mind with in college? And yes, drivel is a word.

          That’s pretty tricky glossing over the difference between the original TWS site in 2012 and the current one. The fact is, Monica, I don’t believe you’re a Veteran of anything more than harrassing legitimate Vets. Veterans do not treat one another with derision or disdain and we are not class conscious. Maybe that’s par for the course over at TWS but not here.

          • Monica says:

            Wow, now at the level of a 12 year old with name calling and posting an email address. I never said I represent TWS. I am a volunteer with them and only speak on my own experience. You’re sad and you need a life. Attack, attack, attack. How lonely you must be.

            • asknod says:

              Monica (X3), how soon we forget who came to my site to attack me and my reading comprehension. This has devolved downwards to the level of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Perhaps you’re off your meds and need vindication of your anger. At any rate, the conversation is no longer productive nor on point. Sadly, I must desist and return to litigating for real Veterans with real disabilities. I do wish you the best-assuming, arguendo-you truly are a disabled Vet and not some Stolen Valor type. Please give President Brian Foster my regards. It’s rumored he drives the latest model of the newest Tesla- the one over $150 K. That might be an indicator of his income from TWS… but I digress. My name is Alex Graham and I am easy to find. There’s a thing called Google if you need to confirm that. To be fair, my email is gagraham51@gmail.com. And that’s all I’m going to say about that.

        • Kelly Phillips says:

          Monica your wrong, asknod validated my suspicions of their free premium one year offer. No link to activate and i wont be suckered by another possible asian based fraud company stealing my Benjamins or Jeffersons, Thank You Nod

          • asknod says:

            I had to cut her off, Kelly. She is beginning to advertise on my site. We don’t accept any advertising $ nor do I allow my name to be used to sponsor this kind of behaviour. It appears Mr. Brian Foster has had to reduce his preposterous get-rich quick scheme costs to inveigle more Vets to join. No longer do they dink you $20 as they did me in 2012- but at the remarkably low-priced 60 cents a day or $9.95 per year. We wish them the best. I find it most odd that Mr. Foster is forced to send unpaid volunteers like Monica Primus or Bruce Larson here to asknod.org to put out all the negative press eruptions. Their “troll” or “gaslighting” technique is especially obnoxious.

  8. Jan Sasek says:

    At first, like so many of you out there, I was convinced that TWS was a great way to (hopefully) get in touch with some old buddies from 60 years ago . . . but THEN I was bombarded with all kinds of ‘reminders’ to pay up or get kicked off . . . so KICK ME OFF! I’m DONE with TWS!!

  9. Robert Parker says:

    There are many out there that uses this tactic, RestMods is one, you really need to read the terms before you sign, RestoMods got me for months before I caught it!

  10. James says:

    I’ll be Damned…… Thanks…
    Please look up ” GoFundMe,com/ BUILD the wall” let me know this is $80

  11. Bruce Larson says:

    CC IS NOT NEEDED… Unless of course you’re one of those folks using the Internet with ZERO education on HOW it works, never actually paying attention and STOPPING TO READ the instructions… but instead just click away.

    The epitome of intellectual laziness…

    Typical of someone thinking NOBODY HAS TO WORK TO PROVIDE IDIOTS FREE ACCESS to the Web-service the owner(s) must PAY to provide. Do you think that the people providing the web-service togetherweserved does so MAGICALLY?

    What are you a welfare whore or a veteran? Do you think that you are entitled to the production of others?

    I went to college with my education benefits and became an engineer building the Internet for the past 30 years after serving 8 years as an Airborne Pathfinder Team Leader, and multiple TBIs…

    All I had to do was follow the instructions to create a free account and NEVER ONCE was I ‘required’ to provide my CC info! I just read the simple instructions for opening a FREE LOADER account.

    What is your excuse? Clearly you did not read the instructions, and instead signed up for the TRIAL MEMBERSHIP and it renewed EXACTLY AS THE INSTRUCTIONS STATE THEY WILL. Very clearly. And with puerile simplicity. So that even a child could understand them. As long as they pay attention to WHAT they are reading.

    Like I learned in Pathfinder School… Not even the military can fix stupid. Fortunately, however there is always a latrine to be serviced and therefore a home for all manner of feeble minded functionary in service of the brave.

    YOU are the contrived ignoramus perpetrating misfeasance of veterans in abject arrogance. That much us axiomatic.

    Bruce Larson
    army.togetherweserved.com
    i.piss.n.ur.coffee@gmail.com

    • asknod says:

      Ah Mr. Larson the Pathfinder in 2018. But not the pathfinder in 2012. Sir, you have shit for brains if you do not annotate the year the blog was posted. We call that “contemporary perspective”. Look it up. After six years of mulling the ill effects my post has had on your bottom line, TWS clearly decided to revamp the format. But, troll that you are, your much vaunted college education was useless when it was critically required. Considering it took you six years to find this post, I suppose we shouldn’t revoke your Pathfinder status but award you the Turtle Medal with two OLCs for your dogged perseverance-however tardy. 30 years building the Internet? Not much of a testimonial to your trade, Bruce. Too bad you skipped English 101. For the record, it’s “as” I learned in Pathfinder School, not “like”. Jez, what do they teach you pukes in college? Narcissism?

      Another point. Somehow, I manage to provide this website to all-free of charge. We have no members, no dues and certainly never sell our user’s information. I pay for my WordPress site out of my own pocket. You might also notice there are no advertisements for Viagra or Russian wives here. I could make thousands each month just on that alone. Why is it TWS has such high overhead? Do they need expensive CPA/accountants to count the money and figure out where to hide it? God forbid they have a 501(c)(3) and charge an entrance fee.

  12. DMAx says:

    I was going to give it a try, see if I can find some old Army buddies. Felt like I was exposing a lot of personal info. Got to the CC part and scrolled over that info. Got to the free part and they still wanted my cc info. Instead I decided to google it and see if they’re legit? Yes it appears the free is after they get your cc info you get the trial but have to cancel within that 10 days or they’ll ding your cc. I’d like to give it a whirl but who knows if my old ranger buddies are even members here…

    • asknod says:

      I’ve received email from the purported “ownership” threatening me with legal action. I won’t call it a scam as they obviously provide something. What, I’m not exactly sure. Best of luck in finding your buddies.

  13. Arvel L Palmer says:

    On the 4th step of the membership process, you do NOT have to pay the $19.95 or even use your credit card. You can click “No Thanks” and get “Free Member privileges with limited access only.” I know that it’s NOT FULL access, but it doesn’t cost $19.95 per year either.

    • asknod says:

      They said free and then nicked my credit card. I had to jump through hoops to get out of it and they did get my $20. That was a number of years ago in 2012. It could be that enough Veterans complained that they instituted the “free/limited” access after they fleeced me. I guess they had to find a new way to inveigle members with an easier ejection handle.
      As I point out, always investigate the people you associate with. Assume nothing. “Always have a plan to kill everyone in the room” as one of my SF buddies said once in a country north of Thailand that rhymed with “mouse” where I never served… together… with anyone.

  14. Kiedove says:

    Good to know. Thank you.

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.