I need some guidance


flipfarts
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05/24/09 #1

Dear M/F Veterans
I am very grate full for the information posted here for HCV veterans. I have read quite allot. I believe I was screwed by the Ca Dept of Veterans Affairs here in Ca. Screwed in the sense they offered no help or had information regarding appeals or anything. Currently they have my power of attorney but that is going to change ASAP. I do have some questions about by appeal.
Do I need to request my 201 file? How do I correct negative information in it?
Do I need my medical records also? My attorney(Hill&Ponton-Florida) requested these last month. He said is would take at least 6-8 months to get it. Funny thing about the attorney. I have not signed a retainer from him as of this post. However he has emailed me things to sign and says he will reopen my case back to 2004. My service connection claim was denied but I got the poor veterans pension because I haven’t worked since 1995.
I cannot believe how stupid I was to trust others with my HCV appeal. Knowledge is power. I have learned so much here. I want the correct information in my file. I want to do the work to get my case approved. I am not concerned about the attorney fees or charges. He didn’t say how many veterans he represented that got approved. Still we are always on a need to know basis. I need to know everything in this appeal process. Please I need help from other vets that prevailed in their claims. Any and all comments or help is greatly appreciated..
Thank You
RMG
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05/24/09 #2

First welcome to NOD. We can and will help you with these issues.On the fist issue look to the left of the nod screen where you posted this message. In the third box on the left is a how do I correct Service/Discharge records click on that and read the instructions. There is also a link for SF-180 those are for all your service records click that link as well the instructions are there as well it will take about 6-8 weeks to get them not months as they have told you.If you have any problems let us know and we will help you all the way.Rob<———– look in this column and click on the links

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flipfarts
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05/28/09 #3

Gentelmen
I have been reading some of the case rulings. I have noticed there is an issue with DUI’s, Drug Treatments, and veteran admissions of drug and alcohol use.
Does the VA do DMV and Criminal Background checks on Vets? I live in CA. If a vet has questionable driving record, arrests for other than drug use, can this information be shielded or sealed? 
Inquiring minds need to know…..
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05/28/09 #4

Did any of these incidents happen while on active duty? If not it has no issue with your case. If you were on active duty and paid the price for your sins it has no effect on your case. The only way it can harm you if it shows as misconduct while serving your country. As a civilian that is the job of the civil courts and has no effect on your military service. It can effect it if you were sentenced to prison as a possibility of acquiring a disease. Unless you can prove that you had this disease or injury before being incarcerated.__________________
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flipfarts
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05/28/09 #5

Hi RodD1956
Thank you for the quick answer. No I did not have any DUI or arrests while on active duty. I did get a ticket for possession(pot)in Tacoma WA(bar room fight) in 1973 while I was on leave. I went to court and paid a fine. I went overseas and didn’t have any issues with my security clearance. The Army didn’t find out about it to the best of my knowledge. I will look in my 201 file when I get it.  
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05/28/09 #6

I left one thing out, if you had an honorable or general discharge it will not effect your case. The small charge that you had wont effect HCV either way. Also I might suggest don’t try and hide anything show the VA that you are honest and deserve what you are claiming. Your credibility is on the line, as well as your claim the more credible you are the better chance you have of winning.__________________
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flipfarts
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05/28/09 #7

RobD1956
I read the other posts about a vet trying to be dishonest with his claim. I had a honorable discharge 1975. How can I find out if I was tested for HCV at a VA hospital and not told of the results? Funny thing about me was the VA did tell me I had HCV. However I was there for a completely different matter than being told I had HCV. I had to return to the hospital to learn of this. They wouldn’t tell me over the phone. Does this sound suspicious??
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05/28/09 #8

Ok they are required by law after 1979 to report HCV to the State you were in when the disease was contracted. But not before that. So what you need to do is file an SF180 for all your blood tests and medical records that involved any type of blood tests surgeries or medical proceedures and scour them for raised alt and ast levels this will tell when you contracted the disease. After finding this out show them to an independant Dr to backup your claim that you contracted HCV in service. There is your connection. And a piece of paper called a Nexus the most important part of your claim. If it is in your service medical record or SMR they will have one hell of a time dening you service connection. And to answer your question they are not allowed to give that type of information over the phone as they cannot prove who they are speaking with.__________________
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flipfarts
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05/30/09 #9

Hi RobD1956
Thanks again for the straight answers. I live in CA. My zip is 92308. Does anyone know of doctors in my area that are vets or doctors that I can get that “nexus” letter? I have reached out to the American Legion here. Haven’t got an answer yet. My local county vet rep office has sent me the forms to request my files and medical records. I know it will take some time. I sent an email to the doctor who is wheel chair bound. He has not answered. It’s been a few weeks. I am trying to follow the advice I get here as best as I can. I wish I knew about this site 5 years ago. I am determined to win my appeal and pass on what I learned to other vets.
Thanks
RMG
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05/30/09 #10

Do you have a Dr you see on a regular basis? If so his or her opinion will do. Just make sure that when they review you military records that they state it is “More Likely Than Not” (I can not stress enough how important that statement is) that you contracted HCV while in the service. Going by what you have told me so far the military knows you had hepatitis in the service. Therefore it will not be hard to prove. Wait for your records and then we can go over them and see if there will be a problem.__________________
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06/01/09 #11

Dear Flipfart/RMG,Let me enlighten you a little more about the VA. They have “X” number of dollars to devote to Vets- for HCV, back claims, front claims, 8 different medical groups seeking funding to pay for their medical. VA can and will try anything in their power to discover if you have lied about anything. Failing to admit to the Pot charge is fatal to your claim.You want to assume they will do a complete CBI( they will). You want to assume they will investigate you thoroughly. They will,sir. The pot, even though you cannot contract HCV from it, will be used to prove a moral defect in your character. I didn’t write these crazy rules. Blame the VA. In the same vein, if you have a DUI, they will say you exhibit behavior akin to drug addicts. Out comes the paint brush of evil. Regardless of what the 201s say, always tell them the truth. It really makes you look good. Google the term GAF scores and look at the part associated with drug abuse. VA will utilize this frequently to assess your potential as a person who is of questionable morals. To be sure, read the Introduction and the Meat of the claim and associated Nexus info and it will open you eyes on how this process works. Good luck and best of wishes, sir.Attached Images:
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flipfarts
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06/11/09 #12

I was talking to a vet at the VA hospital @ Loma Linda Ca. He asked me if I knew anything about the class action lawsuit of the May 3, 2006 theft of computer hard drives with vet personal information by a govt employee. He said he heard that the information was pre 1975 servicemen and woman. Another Korean vet overheard the conversation and said there was a $1500.00 settlement for every vet who submitted a claim…
Is this true? I think I would of heard about this by now. Is there any way to follow up on this lawsuit?
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RobD1956
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06/11/09 #13

It’s all new to me I have not heard anything of that sort. But again that is not to unusual as we vets are always the last to know.__________________
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flipfarts
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06/11/09 #14

That Korean vet sent me http://www.va.gov scroll down to end of page and link http://www.VeteransClass.com there is a claim form but no explanation other then submitting “proof” of injury. It makes no sense to me. It also says the minimum payment is $75.00 If anyone has submitted a claim to this action please share the process.
Thanks…
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01/01/10 #15

RMG- Hopefully you have your military medical records by now. If your law dog is not responsive, remember we are here to help if we can. Sometimes getting assistance from AMLEG, VFW, Mil. Order of the Purple Heart, etc. is a double edged sword. They want your Power of Attorney (POA) because the Govt. pays them to represent you. Once they get that moolah in their hands, your calls seem to go on hold or the Service Officer on your case is “out on vacation”. Be careful who you trust. Even the lawyer is going to ask for the POA. I have used DAV (I lost), AMVETS (I lost) and finally MOPH (lost again). I finally went solo and won. What none of them told me is what is needed to win. Proof of disease in service (or presumptive causes like STDs or Tattoos), a current diagnosis of Hep C and last but not least- the all important nexus letter from a genuine M.D. that states at a minimum ” It is at least as likely as not that the Veteran contracted this disease due to ________ while in the military.” The doctor has to specifically state that he reviewed your contemporary medical records from when you were in the service. He can’t use words like probably or possibly or might coulda happened that way. VA “examiners” will tear the nexus apart and spit it out if you do not do it right. Hell, chances are they will the first time around anyway. Most Vets win on appeal at the BVA level if their case has merit. Success rate is 10-12%, but remember there are a ton of chuckleheads out there putting in really bogus Hep claims. This clogs the system but every idiot has to have his day in court. I had hep in service (B) and was told it was A. Nobody could test for that in 1970 or, for that matter, C. I came down with Hep 89 days after a blood transfusion for a GSW. That was my only risk factor. Medrecs sucked back then and it (the txfusion) wasn’t in mine. They gave me SC simply because the genotype was 3A which only occurs in SEA and Australia. Mighty thin nexus, huh? I had three of them- one from my private doc and one from QTC doc. VA still went out and asked for an Independent Medical Opinion (IMO). He put the fork in it and I finally won- June 2008. I first filed March 1994. Go figure. Don’t depend on a Veterans Service Organization to do your claim. They won’t. They’ll simply file everything you hand them (most of the time). They lose more $hit than VA sends to the shredder room in my opinion. If you let a VSO drive the bus. ride herd on him all the time. Better yet, do it yourself and take the worry out of it. Truth is, VA is far more lenient towards Vets who do their own claims. They figure we’re all bozos and pushovers. Prove them wrong, hoss.
flipfarts
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01/01/10 #16

Hello NOD
Thanks for your observations about my claims. Yes my records are in the hands of my attorney. We had a conference on our computers. He since has filed to reopen my denial for service connection from 2002. There are 4 “CUE” errors that he says should get denial revised. Here they are as listed attached to form 21-4138. 
1. The rating board denied my claim for service connection based on the statement “the use of inoculation guns is not a known risk factor associated with the contraction of HCV”. This statement by the board was a medical opinion which the board was not allowed to make under the holding of Colvin v. Derwinski, 1 App. 171 (1991)
2. The rating board denied my claim for service connection based on the statement that “the dry shaving incident cannot be verified”. I presented evidence of the dry shavings incident in my statements in the record demonstrating exposures to HCV. Under 38 C.F.R. 3.307(b), 3.303(a), 3.303(b), the rating board was required to consider my testimony concerning exposures to HCV without corroboration from other sources.
3. The rating board denied my claim for service connection based on the statement “that there was no evidence to support my claim of being treated by a dentist in Germany”. I presented evidence of the dental treatment in my statements in the record demonstrating exposures to HCV. Under 38 C.F.R. 3.307(b), 3.303(a), 3.303(b), the rating board was required to consider my testimony concerning exposures to HCV without corroboration from other sources.
4. The rating board ignored the opinion of Robert Griffin, M.D. concerning causation and improperly substituted its own medical opinion in denying my claim. This is a violation of Colvin v. Derwinski, 1 Vet. APP. 171 (1991).The errors made by the rating board in its decision of August 13, 2002 were outcome determinative in that there was no evidence of record at the time of the decision which would warrant denial of my claim for service connection except the improper evidence which was used by the board to deny service connection. Further, all of the evidence which supported my claim for service connection was present in the record when the rating board made its decision on August 13, 2002.
I am asking that the decision of August 13, 2002, be revised and that service connection for my HCV be granted with an effective date of July 26, 2001, the date of my claim……….CUE error #4 explanation was someone crossed out the “causation” reason given by my GI Doctor. It was substituted with a different lesser causation. My attorney asked me point blank if I did it. I said hell no since I never saw the report nor asked for my medical records. I told him to check records requests I have made since 1994. He never got back to me on that one.
My last talk with him was my CUE claim might get heard sometime in 2011. He seems confident he can get the denial revised, along with his 33.3% fee, BUT it will take next to forever. 
I know you cannot give an opinion here because you don’t have my records. HOWEVER it would behoove me to know your thoughts and assessment about these CUE error claims. YOUR HELP IS APPRECIATED HERE. I HATE ATTORNEYS….
I HOPE YOU HAD A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
RMG
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01/02/10 #17

Dear RMGCUE is one of the hardest things to prove and I hope your attorney is up to the task. I will quote from the CAVC rulings on what you can expect.CUE is determined by three criteria: (1) Either the correct facts as they were known at the time, were not before the adjudicator (i.e. there must be more than a simple disagreement as to how the facts were weighed or evaluated) or the statutory or regulatory provisions extant at the time were incorrectly applied; (2) the error must be undebatable and of the sort which, had it not been made, would have manifestly changed the outcome at the time it was made; and (3) a determination that there was CUE must be based on the record and law that existed at the time of the prior adjudication in question. Russell v. Principi, 3 Vet. App. 310 (1992).

BVA rulings cannot be cited for precedent. Neither can single judge dispositions of cases at the CAVC level. Only panel or en banc cases are used for precedent-setting decisions. I’m sure you or the law dog representing you are aware of this. BVA is the only AOJ who can hear this case. The CAVC does not decide CUE cases-only that they were fairly adjudicated. As you know, CUE implies an outcome-based decision. This process depends heavily on the facts submitted, facts available to the adjudicator at the time of the decision and correct application of the law as it was written at the time of the decision. From what you have written, it would appear that the BVA has substituted their medical opinion for that of a doctor which is a clear and unmistakable error on their part. They definitely should have sent it out for an IMO or remanded it to the VARO for VA to evaluate your condition.

One item you haven’t mentioned is Layno v. Brown (1994). This little precedent-setting gem is very germane to your argument. You are allowed to testify about your medical condition insofar as what comes to you via your 5 senses. You were there. VA is required to rebut this testimony if they wish to prevent it from being given any prejudicial weight in your favor. One of the VA’s favorite methods of denial is that you have not proved your case, that there is no medical record of such an occurrence, or that you cannot corroborate your statements.

Here is the controlling statute in 38 U.S.C. Title 38 USC 5104:

(a) In the case of a decision by the Secretary under section 511 of this title affecting the provision of benefits to a claimant, the Secretary shall, on a timely basis, provide to the claimant (and to the claimant’s representative) notice of such decision. The notice shall include an explanation of the procedure for obtaining review of the decision. (b) In any case where the Secretary denies a benefit sought, the notice required by subsection (a) shall also include (1) a statement of the reasons for the decision, and (2) a summary of the evidence considered by the Secretary.

What might work in your favor is a failure on VA’s part to list all the evidence considered. This is a CUE error more times than not. Go to the VA.gov website and click on BVA decisions and search the CUE decisions up to your case being heard originally. You cannot cite CAVC/ Fed. Cir. precedents set after your BVA ruling decision. You only get one shot at the apple unless the BVA dismisses your claim without prejudice. CUE is one of the hardest cases to prove so you have to be on your toes and at the top of your game.

This is from Colvin v. Derwinski (1991):

The BVA decision does not cite medical evidence of record in this case or recognized medical treatises to support these medical conclusions. The BVA, in finding that the new evidence
did not provide a new factual basis for a claim was, in effect, refuting the expert medical conclusions in the record with its own unsubstantiated medical conclusions. BVA panels may consider only independent medical evidence to support their findings. If the medical evidence of record is insufficient, or, in the opinion of the BVA, of doubtful weight or credibility, the BVA is always free to supplement the record by seeking an advisory opinion, ordering a medical examination or citing
recognized medical treatises in its decisions that clearly support its ultimate conclusions. See 38 U.S.C. § 4009 (1988); Murphy v. Derwinski, U.S. Vet. App. No. 90-107, slip op. at 4 (Nov. 8, 1990). This procedure ensures that all medical evidence contrary to the veteran’s claim will be made known to him and be a part of the record before this Court.

Another point of interest, although it doesn’t necessarily involve CUE, is that “new and material evidence” as described in 38 CFR 3.156(a) can be a new nexus from a doctor. This was also incorporated into the Colvin decision. This is often overlooked in VA jurisprudence when they refuse to reopen a claim on the bogus grounds that you haven’t brought anything “new or material” to the table. Make sure your law dog reads Colvin from front to back as well as Gilbert v. Derwinski. Just one Vet’s opinion, mind you. I’m not a lawyer- I just read a lot. Good luck, sir.

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01/02/10 #18

More info for your law dog…The United States Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims
(Court) has stressed consistently the rigorous nature of the
concept of clear and unmistakable error. “Clear and
unmistakable error is an administrative failure to apply the
correct statutory and regulatory provisions to the correct
and relevant facts: it is not mere misinterpretation of
facts.” Oppenheimer v. Derwinski, 1 Vet. App. 370, 372
(1991). Clear and unmistakable errors “are errors that are
undebatable, so that it can be said that reasonable minds
could only conclude that the original decision was fatally
flawed at the time it was made.” Russell v. Principi, 3
Vet. App. 310, 313-4. “It must always be remembered that
clear and unmistakable error is a very specific and rare kind
of ‘error.'” Fugo v. Brown, 6 Vet. App. 40, 43 (1993).The Court has propounded a three-prong test to determine
whether clear and unmistakable error is present in a prior
determination: (1) either the correct facts, as they were
known at the time, were not before the adjudicator (i.e.,
more than a simple disagreement as to how the facts were
weighed or evaluated) or the statutory or regulatory
provisions extant at that time were incorrectly applied; (2)
the error must be “undebatable” and of the sort “which,
had it not been made, would have manifestly changed the
outcome at the time it was made;” and (3) a determination
that there was clear and unmistakable error must be based on
the record and law that existed at the time of the prior
adjudication in question. Damrel v. Brown, 6 Vet. App. 242,
245 (1994), quoting Russell, 3 Vet. App. at 313-14.

Allegations that previous adjudications had improperly
weighed and evaluated the evidence can never rise to the
stringent definition of clear and unmistakable error. Fugo,
6 Vet. App. at 44. Additionally, VA’s failure in the duty to
assist cannot constitute clear and unmistakable error. Cook
v. Principi, 318 F.3d 1334, 1346 (Fed. Cir. 2003). The
alleged error must be of fact or of law that, when called to
the attention of later reviewers, compels the conclusion, to
which reasonable minds could not differ, that the result
would have been manifestly different but for the error.
Thus, even where the premise of error is accepted, if it is
not absolutely clear that a different result would have
ensued, the error complained of cannot be clear and
unmistakable error.

If a claimant wishes to reasonably raise a claim of clear and
unmistakable error, there must be some degree of specificity
as to what the alleged error is and, unless it is the kind of
error that, if true, would be clear and unmistakable error on
its face, persuasive reasons must be given as to why one
would be compelled to reach the conclusion, to which
reasonable minds could not differ, that the result would have
been manifestly different but for the alleged error. Fugo, 6
Vet. App. at 43-44. If the error alleged is not the type of
error that, if true, would be clear and unmistakable error on
its face; if the claimant is asserting only disagreement with
how the RO evaluated the facts before it; or if the veteran
has not expressed with specificity how the application of
cited laws and regulations would dictate a “manifestly
different” result, the claim must be denied or the appeal to
the Board terminated because of the absence of legal merit or
the lack of entitlement under the law. Luallen, 8 Vet. App.
at 95.

flipfarts
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Posts: 19
01/03/10 #19

Hello Mr Manager
You have shared more information with me than the lawyer in Florida. I looked him up. He is VA approved(ass***e) who is supposed to know how to stand before the board knowledgeable in VA laws and statues. Hill & Ponton ie: Brian Hill has some stuff posted as per decisions. We have had a few words already. He doesn’t return calls or reply in a timely manner. He threatened me about my comments-opinion about the CDVA(my representative) and their stupidity/mal-practice in my case. Anyway I told him that lawyers and preachers make a living off other peoples pain and suffering. You are dealing with a wounded animal and he will fight back. Disrespect me again and you will get flushed like the piece of s**t on your license. 
He will not discuss anything more about my case. His clerk does all the email or phone calls. I appreciate your help and cites for me to look up. I love research and study also. I am preparing myself for the hearing in Los Angeles. I hear all kind of different stories about the waiting list for appeals like mine. The latest is 2-3 years. The DSO at the DAV goes out of his way to talk vets out of appealing or saying it’s almost hopeless. Reasons are CA has the most cases and not enough judges. There are more vets in CA than some states combined. This state is on the verge of bankruptcy. Bad attitudes and hopeless are everywhere.
Rest assure I will research every cite-case you have given me. I will post anything new that happen in my appeal. All you good people are a blessing on this site. I have already passed on some of the help I got here to other vets. The good book tells us we are to pick up or brother when he is down. To walk with that extra mile when not asked. I hope all here have a good new year..
RMG
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01/03/10 #20

Hey, Bubba- If you like to read (and it appears your IQ is in the Mensa range), you should check out the CAVC site. This is where you find true ammunition for your case. The BVA decisions are good up to a point. They cite CAVC decisions but don’t delve into them nearly as deeply as the CAVC site does. You can look at actual cases going back to the dawn of time(or 1989)when it was still the CAVA (Court of Veterans Appeals). All the panel opinions (with a few exceptions) are still viable for citing. I was rereading Douglas v. Shinseki today thinking about your claim and I think you’ll find some useful ammo in there or at least cited references to other cases that might give you more things to think about. I’ll attach both below.http://www.uscourts.cavc.gov/orders_and_opinions/Opinions.cfmhttp://www.uscourts.cavc.gov/documents/Douglas-1392.pdf

Douglas was decided this year so you cannot cite it for any precedents in a CUE case. All your CUE cites must be prior to the 2004 date I saw mentioned in one of your early posts. You cannot, by VA law, ask for an earlier effective date for your claim in a CUE case. When you go to the CAVC site:

http://www.uscourts.cavc.gov/

Look to the left,rest the pointer on opinions and click on it. This gives you access to any panel CAVC decision. Two categories below that you’ll find “Decisions and Opinions”. These are single judge rulings that are not precedent setting but give you a good feel for how the CAVC thinks and, again, cites precedent that you can use. Just for poops and grins, type in “Clear and Unmistakable Error 2009” w/o the quotes (of course). It will spew out every CUE case decided by single judge disposition this year. Knowledge is power, RMG. I didn’t even know how to turn this computer on 2 years ago. If the MOPH hadn’t told me (erroneously)that tattoos were not on the list of presumptive causes for Hep C I never would have questioned the butthead”s wisdom. I knew differently and listened to his BS for a week or so. He told me my chances of winning Hep/ AO claims were worse than an ice cube’s chances in hell. I retrieved my POA and started learning all about Chapter 38, Code of Federal Regulations. Next, I tried digesting 38 U.S.C. You really only need to master the former of the two, and Part 3 and 4 are the only ones pertinent to claims. There is a whole part devoted to CUE (19 or 20) which will interest you :

http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/cfr.php?title=38&type=chapter&value=1

Remember, if you lose you really have no one to blame but yourself. Trusting anyone to carry the water for you is a fool’s errand. Lawyers have access to all the things I have shown you here today. So do VSOs. They are LAZY. Witness the DAV service officer you mentioned advocating throwing in the towel rather than appeal! Or my SO telling me I was going to lose before it had even been adjudicated. This kind of legal advice I can do without. I suspect you can too. If you have a viable case I’ve noticed you can browbeat these bozos down. It’s the death of a thousand paper cuts. When your C-file starts to look like the first printing of Gutenberg’s bible and weighs as much, you start to get results. Of course that’s just one Vet’s opinion. Having a viable presumptive cause is the preliminary ticket to eventual success (see the VA risk form to the left).

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